Your email sequence on dating sites has two objectives: to break the ice with a woman and then get her phone number. Once you have a good email sequence, you’ll get numbers every time you send out emails.

Of course, not every woman will give you their number or even email you back, but a solid email sequence will allow you to get lots of phone numbers from attractive women.

What about women that ask you for your number?

If an attractive woman asks you for your number first obviously you’ll want to give it to her, but get her number too just in case she chickens out when it comes time to calling you.

In cases where you ask a woman for her number and she responds with some variation of “Why don’t you give me your number instead?” there is zero point in giving her your number.

Giving the woman your number ends the interaction with her right there. She will not call you and she will not give you her number, and she will usually stop answering your emails too.

Why then do women even ask for your number then if they aren’t going to call you?

Women ask for your number rather than giving you their number for a variety of reasons.

Sometimes you haven’t built up enough attraction with the woman; other times it could be that she was just being polite when responding to your emails but she’s not interested in you.

Or it could be a lot of other guys have asked her for her number too and she doesn’t want a bunch of random guys calling her.

Or maybe she’s trying to be cautious since there are so many wackos in the world.

Regardless of the reason why a woman asks for your number rather than giving you hers, it comes down to one simple conclusion – if she were really interested in you she would give you her number.
Women That Are Attracted To You Make Dating Easy
Women that are attracted and/or interested in you make it easy for you to get to the next step. If you ask a woman for her number she’ll give it to you. If you call her, she’ll answer. If you ask her out, she’ll accept.

Women who make getting to the next step difficult for you aren’t interested in you. There are some women that just make things difficult even if they like you, but that’s definitely not the kind of women most guys prefer.

So the simple answer is no. If a woman asks for your number rather than giving you hers when you ask, don’t give it to her. She’s not going to call and the interaction will end there if you do give her your number.

If you’re still interested in the woman you can try one last thing.

You can challenge her to make a decision one way or another – give you her number or hit the road.

That’s a very direct and possibly aggressive approach, but it saves you time in case you’re dealing with a woman who just wants to play games.

You can challenge a woman this way by sending her another email along the lines of, “If you were interested you would leave your number. Best wishes”

An email like this is simple and to the point. A woman will understand that she can give you her number or just move on.

This won’t work every time because, remember, a woman who didn’t give you her number the first time you asked probably wasn’t very interested to begin with.

However, I understand there are times when you’re still attracted to a woman and want to try one last time, even if there is only a small chance for success. You have nothing to lose at that point anyway with the woman, so go ahead and email her if you still want.

So there you have it. Now you know the only circumstances you should give your number to a woman. Remember though, playing games with women about getting their numbers should be the exception, not the rule.

If you find that you have to play games with women when you ask for their number, tweak your email sequence and profile.

If you’re having other problems when you ask women for their number, leave your situation below in the comments.

Brandon Duran

Getting good at meeting and dating women isn’t a one-step process. It’s a series of many small incremental improvements.

You’ll have a lot of victories and a lot of small defeats. Those victories and defeats will both point you in the right direction to keep you moving forward and improving your success with women.

Learning to get better with women this way is similar to a mindset called Kaizen.

At its core, Kaizen is simply a philosophy aimed at making continual progress by making many small improvements. Over time, the compound effect of those small improvements can result in a huge payoff.

You can apply Kaizen to every aspect of meeting women online.

(In a previous article I talked about split testing your emails to get more responses from women. Split testing is a form of Kaizen because it involves making small improvements to get better results.)

The thing I love most about Kaizen is by using it the only thing that can happen is you’ll get closer to your goals and even reach (and surpass) them. Kaizen nearly guarantees that you’ll get better results because you never stop improving yourself and what you do.
How To Use Kaizen To Meet More Women
Using Kaizen is very easy. When you reach a roadblock, you just have to do something different. You then track that information to figure out what works best, and then you do more of what gets you the most results.

That’s it. Here’s a quick breakdown of Kaizen:

Continue doing what’s working until you reach a road block, and then try something new to get passed it. Observe how the change you made affects your results. Continue doing more of what works and less or none of what doesn’t. Then continue doing this process over and over to get better results.

Of course, you don’t have to wait to apply Kaizen until you reach a roadblock. You can aim for better results even if you’re happy with your current results, and really that’s what Kaizen is about – constant improvement.

When you stop looking at meeting women online as one gigantic process that’s impossible to figure out, and you start looking at it as a series of small steps, you can really start making some serious progress.

Each of those small steps is an opportunity where you can improve, and when you do, those small improvements will result in you meeting and dating more women. And really, that’s the whole reason you’re on dating sites in the first place, right?

Use Kaizen on each of the small steps to continue making forward progress. It might take you a few weeks or months, but those small improvements will payoff and you’ll meet more women.

Brandon Duran

The goal of emailing women on dating sites it to get their phone numbers, which can then lead to meeting in the real world.

In this article you’ll learn what to do once you get a woman’s number, and how to transition from emailing to talking on the phone.
Why Women Don’t Answer Their Phones After Giving You Their Number
Many women will give you their phone number and then never pick up when you call.

A woman that doesn’t answer your calls or return your messages makes absolutely no sense. After all, if she’s not interested, why would she have given you her number in the first place?

The explanation comes down to attraction. If you can attract a woman, she will likely give you her phone number. However, attraction is a fleeting emotion.

A woman might be momentarily attracted to you, say from a funny email you sent her, and give you her number, but then a few days later when you call her she doesn’t answer because those feelings of attraction are gone.

So what do you do then? How do you get a woman to answer her phone when you call or return your messages?

Well, first we have to go back a little bit.
Attraction Starts Before You Call A Woman
If a woman was guilted into giving you her number or just being polite, of course she’s not going to answer when you call.

Make sure you’re getting women’s numbers because they are attracted to you, not because they are being polite. That is the first step to getting a woman to answer her phone when you call.

So let’s say you have attracted a woman and she has given you her number. What then?

Well, you can just call her, but the problem with that is only a small percentage of women will actually answer their phone.

One reason women don’t answer their phones is because they don’t recognize your number.

If a woman doesn’t answer her phone, you’ll have to leave a message. You’ll then have to wait for her to call you back, if she ever does.

Some guys have realized leaving messages on women’s voicemail doesn’t work very well, so they get smart and text her.

Setting up a date through text can be done and I have done it, however, doing that prevents you from attracting her over the phone, which can be very powerful.

Setting up dates through text also eliminates the chance you have to qualify a woman to make sure she’ll be fun once you meet up with her. It’s much better to find out if a woman is a dud on the phone before you take the time to meet up with her.

Going out with women who have nothing to say, who are boring, who are negative, or who you have no chemistry with is a waste of time. And you can’t find out any of that information through text, but you can over the phone.

I have disqualified a lot of women over the phone and thereby saved my time for other women. I’ve learned this by making the mistake of meeting up with women who were duds on the phone and then were duds in person too.

My rule of thumb is if you have no chemistry or don’t have fun with a woman on the phone, there is no point in meeting up with her in person. I’m sure there are exceptions, but this rule will save you a lot of wasted time with women who suck in person.

So now you know why talking to a woman on the phone is important, but how do you get her to pick up her phone?
How To Get A Woman To Program Your Number Into Her Phone
How do you get around the problem of a woman not recognizing your number?

You get her to program your number into her phone before you call her. This greatly increases the chances a woman will actually answer her phone when you call.

I’m going to give you a text in just moment that will persuade most women to program your number into their phone, but first there are a couple things to keep in mind.

You’ll want to call a woman on the same day you text her this message. And you want to have a few hours between the time you text her and then call her.

So if a woman gives her number in the evening or at night, you’ll probably want to wait until the next day to text her.

If a woman emails you her number early in the day you can text her and then call her that same night.

Here’s the text:
Hi. Just wanted to give you my number too. – Brandon
(Obviously you’ll want to leave your name instead of mine.)

Very simple, but very powerful.

This text does several things very effectively.

First, it makes it seem like she asked for your number and you were just being polite by giving it to her. This is powerful because it gives value to your number.

Second, there is a subtle suggestion that she should program her number into her phone. So rather than seeing a number she doesn’t recognize, she’ll see your name when you call.

Third, it prepares her for your call. She’ll assume the next thing you’re going to do is call her.

Most women will text back something like, “Thanks, how are you doing?” or “Hey! What are you up to?” I’ll usually text back something like, “Just working. I’ll call you tonight.”

I keep it brief when I text a woman back because I don’t want to have a conversation through text. It’s very easy to lose momentum when a woman doesn’t text back right away, and if you lose momentum she might not answer her phone.

After you send the text, wait a few hours and then call her. (I like to call between 8 and 9:30 pm.) Most women will now answer when you call.

Some women won’t text you back. That’s not a big deal. Just call her a few hours after you send the text anyway.

Try out this text and let me know how it goes.

Brandon Duran