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Keep getting stuck in the same place on dating sites? Don’t know what to say in your emails or profile? Can you get responses from women but can’t get their numbers?
This is the place to talk about it.
Leave your biggest hurdles or questions down below as a comment or send it to brandonduran [at] gethertorespond [.] com and I may answer your questions in the next issue of “Reader Q&A.”
Brandon Duran


April 20, 2010 at 7:52 am
Hey Brandon thanks for getting back to me again on the last post. My success in increasing directly because of your input.
I changed the system like you said to only include 18-25 years old. I have realised that the refresh rate of women where i live allows me to send 2 new emails a day sustainably.
So i have been sending 14 a week. Last week i got 2 new numbers as well as 1 number from a girl from my older system. I am pleased with that because i havnt finished my first split test yet and i am already getting a good response. Stil its only been one week so i shouldnt generalise yet.
I also have benefited from creating the first email to ‘no response’ girls. I pretty much copied the one out off dave m but its working well for now. I noticed in your system you have another one you send as well if they ignore the first two. I am curious about that. Maybe the no reply emails could be a future topic.
Secondly what your opinion in regards to outright calling a girl or messaging her first from the number she gives you. Its partially me being a pussy but it seems like if a girl doesnt know me well yet she wont answer and then you got this awkward situation where you either leave a message or call later. What are your thoughts on that?
Finally a quicks ones
On plenty of fish they offer the option of becoming a “serious member” which lets you customize your background. Is this a good way to differentiate yourself or does it make you look like your to into internet dating and act as a DLV?
Finally i have started thinking about split testing my initial text messages to numbers, am i taking this too far?
Cheers again mate
Droog
April 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Hey Droog,
Fantastic! I’m glad what I’ve shown you has had such a big impact on your response rate. Doubling your response rate to your emails after just a week of split testing is pretty damn good!
But let’s wait to see see how split testing your emails improves your responses in a month or two. I’m betting you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
You asked about emails I send to women who don’t respond to the first email I send them. I have two different emails I use, and I give away both emails in my upcoming ebook, ‘From Dateless To Double Booking.’
Those two emails have easily quintupled the amount of women who give me their numbers (and who I end up dating).
Without those emails I would still be mass emailing women and praying for a single response. Using the emails I mentioned, you’ll never have to pray for responses again because they’ll come automatically.
I have a complimentary copy of my book reserved for you since you’re a “doer.”
I plan on releasing the book in July, but I’ll be giving away “review copies” in June. If anyone else wants a review copy, you need to speak up now because I’m giving away only a small number before the launch.
Onward.
You asked what to do after a woman gives you her number. The time after a woman gives you her number is critical. Mess that up and her number is useless.
I have a fantastic text for bridging the moment she gives you her number to the moment you call her.
This one-sentence text will get her to program your name into her phone and anxiously await your call. That circumvents women not answering your call because they don’t recognize your number.
I wasn’t planning on giving away this text, but since you called me out, I feel compelled to give it up. I’ll publish an article on the blog next week that reveals this text.
On the topic of becoming a “serious member” on Plenty of Fish, I wouldn’t do it and I haven’t done it. I don’t want a woman thinking I’m “serious” or desperate to find a woman.
For women, being “serious” can work wonderfully, but for guys, it just puts one more unnecessary obstacle in your path because it makes you look desperate. And the same goes for customizing your profile.
Good questions. Thank you for having the balls to apply what you’re learning and improve your dating life.
Brandon Duran
April 29, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Hey mate
My rate of responses has slowed abit over the last week. I think i have fished out my pond a little and will have to rely on new girls coming in. Because of this i really wanna improve my conversion rate. I set up a duplicate profile to test openers on girls in other states like you said and responses have been good. Should i continue these past getting the information for the split test or is that just a waste of time?
Also i have been texting the girls i get the number of but so far they have flaked either on the day or a few days before the date. How man i change this?
Cheers again mate
Droog
May 3, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I would take your split tests from other states all the way to the point of getting phone numbers. That way you’ll have a solid email sequence so you can get women’s numbers in your own area.
If you’re asking if it’s a waste of time to talk to women from other states, I would say it’s definitely a waste of time, unless you travel a lot.
You asked about women flaking on you.
If women agree to meet up with you but then flake, you might not be developing enough comfort on the phone.
I like to talk to women for 15-30 minutes over the phone. I’ll make the woman laugh a few times and then tell some funny or interesting things that are happening in my life right now.
Then I’ll ask a woman some questions to give her a chance to talk too.
After that, I’ll tell the woman I need to get going but that we should get together for a drink. (Make sure you have a place already picked out.)
Set the date for a few days in advance but not more than four days away.
They could be flaking simply because you’re setting the date too far ahead.
Try that stuff out and let me know if it solves your problem.
Brandon
May 6, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Hey man
I think the idea about not having enough rapport is valid. For the girls that have flaked i had communicated with them entirely through text rather than on the phone. I am gonna change that and incorporate your idea of texting them your number before calling.
I finally finished my first split,
Email 1 – 11/30 – 36% response rate
Email 2 – 8/30 – 26% response rate
We have a clear winner
My next split testing will involve the follow up email from when they respond to the first, hopefully the new one is better, its abit more cheeky.
Cheers again
Droog
May 11, 2010 at 10:48 am
You definitely want to talk to women on the phone rather than just texting. That allows you to attract them over the phone and make sure they’re actually worth meeting in person.
It looks like you’re getting decent response rates to your emails. Keep improving piece by piece and you’ll improve your overall conversion.
It might take you a month or two, but it will definitely be worth it because you’ll be able to send out those emails again and again to meet more women.
Brandon Duran
May 28, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Hey man was wondering how the seasons effect online dating?
Its winter here and it seems to have slowed abit, have you noticed that in your research?
June 1, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I haven’t analyzed my response rates based on the seasons, but I’ve always noticed an increase in responses in the fall and winter.
However, the last few weeks, maybe even month, I’ve noticed a dip in my response rates. I’ve also noticed an increase in the amount of women who have flaked.
Many of the women I talk to are in college or are teachers, and the end of the school year is a very busy time for them. Many of the women have even told me how busy they have been with school.
I’m expecting an increase in responses this month and the rest of the summer though. If I notice something off, I’ll look more into it and post an article about it.
Thanks for the question.
Brandon Duran